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		<title>By: S. Peckinpaw</title>
		<link>http://leschinskidesign.com/20080812/state-of-londons-independent-media/#comment-4688</link>
		<dc:creator>S. Peckinpaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 May 2009 00:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as independent media goes, LondonTopic.ca is by far the best for credible news content. I noticed it wasn&#039;t mentioned and that&#039;s probably a good thing, as it seems your definition of independent online media only extends to the world of blogs, and LondonTopic.ca provides much more than that. Opinion (or blogging) has a place, but it should not be confused with the delivery of credible local news. To their credit, both altLondon and Northeastener also provide timely and credible news. Other than those three, there are no other sites quite like them in the city. And judging by your over-bloated assessment of Dan Brown&#039;s Freeps blog, your critiques should be taken with a grain of salt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as independent media goes, LondonTopic.ca is by far the best for credible news content. I noticed it wasn&#8217;t mentioned and that&#8217;s probably a good thing, as it seems your definition of independent online media only extends to the world of blogs, and LondonTopic.ca provides much more than that. Opinion (or blogging) has a place, but it should not be confused with the delivery of credible local news. To their credit, both altLondon and Northeastener also provide timely and credible news. Other than those three, there are no other sites quite like them in the city. And judging by your over-bloated assessment of Dan Brown&#8217;s Freeps blog, your critiques should be taken with a grain of&nbsp;salt.</p>
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		<title>By: From My Bottom Step &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Welcome to the new&#160;FMBS</title>
		<link>http://leschinskidesign.com/20080812/state-of-londons-independent-media/#comment-4621</link>
		<dc:creator>From My Bottom Step &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Welcome to the new&#160;FMBS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 06:51:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Design agreed to undertake the makeover following the State of London&#8217;s Independent Media critique that made such a splash a couple of months ago. At that time, John rated the old FMBS [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Design agreed to undertake the makeover following the State of London&#8217;s Independent Media critique that made such a splash a couple of months ago. At that time, John rated the old FMBS&nbsp;[&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: doug rogers</title>
		<link>http://leschinskidesign.com/20080812/state-of-londons-independent-media/#comment-2906</link>
		<dc:creator>doug rogers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 15:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If your goal is to transmit news and information, no matter how idiosyncratic the site or opinions might be, the site needs to be navigable. I agree with the design criticisms all around here. Altlondon is a mess. The Londoner site is a mess. For instance both have let other values creep up and dictate the expression of the content.

As to the access to the reading garden at the Library... it is difficult to figure out. It was intended as a private access garden for users of the library. The gate system on Dundas is a compromise to exclude, as well as an answer to the criticism that it wasn&#039;t publicly accessible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If your goal is to transmit news and information, no matter how idiosyncratic the site or opinions might be, the site needs to be navigable. I agree with the design criticisms all around here. Altlondon is a mess. The Londoner site is a mess. For instance both have let other values creep up and dictate the expression of the&nbsp;content.</p>
<p>As to the access to the reading garden at the Library&#8230; it is difficult to figure out. It was intended as a private access garden for users of the library. The gate system on Dundas is a compromise to exclude, as well as an answer to the criticism that it wasn&#8217;t publicly&nbsp;accessible.</p>
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		<title>By: doug rogers</title>
		<link>http://leschinskidesign.com/20080812/state-of-londons-independent-media/#comment-2904</link>
		<dc:creator>doug rogers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 12:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel neglected.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel&nbsp;neglected.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Brown</title>
		<link>http://leschinskidesign.com/20080812/state-of-londons-independent-media/#comment-2820</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 12:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John, thanks for the mention. You&#039;re right — the blog tool we use needs updating in the worst way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, thanks for the mention. You&#8217;re right — the blog tool we use needs updating in the worst&nbsp;way.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Fowler</title>
		<link>http://leschinskidesign.com/20080812/state-of-londons-independent-media/#comment-2801</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Fowler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 23:18:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear &quot;Mr. McLarty&quot;:

&lt;blockquote&gt;Whatever you say, Ken, er a Greg.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Let&#039;s get the insinuation out of the way, right up front. Prior to this comment, the only one that I&#039;ve made was the original one. Made to John, under my own name. Nor do I understand the reason for the personal attack against me here. I&#039;ll simply offer this one rebuttal. If it continues, then I may have to take other steps in order to protect my reputation. I will not be drawn into a pissing contest here.

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;...accuracy and the full picture is relevant.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I agree.

&lt;blockquote&gt;you’re assuming I posted inaccurate information on Greg’s site that he deleted. Not true and he knows it.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And you know that my decision not to publish it was never anything more than the fact that I didn&#039;t have the time/energy/contacts to verify it. And the fact that you would not provide me with your contacts when I asked you to.

&lt;blockquote&gt;[Mr. Fowler] &quot;... also deleted other news-related posts because he says he couldn’t (or didn’t take the time to) confirm the information.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It&#039;s my blog, not yours. I won&#039;t be put into a position of legal liability just because you want me to accept carte-blanche everything that you purport to be true, especialy when you seem to expect to be given the special privilege of posting under a hider nick.

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Mr. Fowler deleted my post stating that the Rotary Reading Garden was accessed from the Central Library because I’m not posting using my real name.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;ve rejected other submissions from other anonymous sources as well. What I find dishonest about your rant is the way you neglected to mention the recent email exchange in which I invited you to re-submit everything under your real name, and you decided not to. Your choice, not mine.

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Contact me if you have a problem registering or activating your account. Sometimes shit happens.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Especially on Alt since you took it over from Sean Hurley. I finally gave up asking you to fix &quot;the problem&quot; so that I could log on the site, after many requests for such assistance. A quick search of my records indicates that I was last allowed to post to your site 2007/01/07 (the &quot;Van Meerbergen&quot; thread). No, actually you posted it for me, characterizing it again as &quot;technical problems.&quot; Now, here you are complaining about not being able to be heard on FMBS. You&#039;re funny!

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Since I took over the site in early December of 2006, I’ e deleted more than 600 pages...Actually, I’ve deleted more than 600 articles, not pages. Eight-hundred deleted articles sounds about right. Maybe 850.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yes, and many of those articles were mine! ROFL!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear &#8220;Mr.&nbsp;McLarty&#8221;:</p>
<blockquote><p>Whatever you say, Ken, er a&nbsp;Greg.</p></blockquote>
<p>Let&#8217;s get the insinuation out of the way, right up front. Prior to this comment, the only one that I&#8217;ve made was the original one. Made to John, under my own name. Nor do I understand the reason for the personal attack against me here. I&#8217;ll simply offer this one rebuttal. If it continues, then I may have to take other steps in order to protect my reputation. I will not be drawn into a pissing contest&nbsp;here.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;&#8230;accuracy and the full picture is&nbsp;relevant.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>I&nbsp;agree.</p>
<blockquote><p>you’re assuming I posted inaccurate information on Greg’s site that he deleted. Not true and he knows&nbsp;it.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>And you know that my decision not to publish it was never anything more than the fact that I didn&#8217;t have the time/energy/contacts to verify it. And the fact that you would not provide me with your contacts when I asked you&nbsp;to.</p>
<blockquote><p>[Mr. Fowler] &#8220;&#8230; also deleted other news-related posts because he says he couldn’t (or didn’t take the time to) confirm the&nbsp;information.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s my blog, not yours. I won&#8217;t be put into a position of legal liability just because you want me to accept carte-blanche everything that you purport to be true, especialy when you seem to expect to be given the special privilege of posting under a hider&nbsp;nick.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Mr. Fowler deleted my post stating that the Rotary Reading Garden was accessed from the Central Library because I’m not posting using my real&nbsp;name.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;ve rejected other submissions from other anonymous sources as well. What I find dishonest about your rant is the way you neglected to mention the recent email exchange in which I invited you to re-submit everything under your real name, and you decided not to. Your choice, not&nbsp;mine.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Contact me if you have a problem registering or activating your account. Sometimes shit&nbsp;happens.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Especially on Alt since you took it over from Sean Hurley. I finally gave up asking you to fix &#8220;the problem&#8221; so that I could log on the site, after many requests for such assistance. A quick search of my records indicates that I was last allowed to post to your site 2007/01/07 (the &#8220;Van Meerbergen&#8221; thread). No, actually you posted it for me, characterizing it again as &#8220;technical problems.&#8221; Now, here you are complaining about not being able to be heard on FMBS. You&#8217;re&nbsp;funny!</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Since I took over the site in early December of 2006, I’ e deleted more than 600 pages&#8230;Actually, I’ve deleted more than 600 articles, not pages. Eight-hundred deleted articles sounds about right. Maybe&nbsp;850.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes, and many of those articles were mine!&nbsp;ROFL!</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Fowler</title>
		<link>http://leschinskidesign.com/20080812/state-of-londons-independent-media/#comment-2800</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Fowler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 22:52:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kevin:
&lt;blockquote&gt;I find this same problem at From My Bottom Step from time to time&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I&#039;d appreciate hearing anything that you have to say about clutter or anything else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin:</p>
<blockquote><p>I find this same problem at From My Bottom Step from time to&nbsp;time</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;d appreciate hearing anything that you have to say about clutter or anything&nbsp;else.</p>
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		<title>By: John L</title>
		<link>http://leschinskidesign.com/20080812/state-of-londons-independent-media/#comment-2786</link>
		<dc:creator>John L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 20:15:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you are unable to see the comparison of censorship on a private business&#039; blog, and a site funded by the city as a voice for Northeast London then I don&#039;t think anyone can help you.

I don&#039;t see Greg, or anyone else that I reviewed here &quot;unable to handle criticism&quot; other then you. And being over the hill doesn&#039;t make you any better then anyone else commenting on this article. 

If this is so insignificant to you then I don&#039;t expect to see you continuing to comment. Good luck with your site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you are unable to see the comparison of censorship on a private business&#8217; blog, and a site funded by the city as a voice for Northeast London then I don&#8217;t think anyone can help&nbsp;you.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see Greg, or anyone else that I reviewed here &#8220;unable to handle criticism&#8221; other then you. And being over the hill doesn&#8217;t make you any better then anyone else commenting on this&nbsp;article. </p>
<p>If this is so insignificant to you then I don&#8217;t expect to see you continuing to comment. Good luck with your&nbsp;site.</p>
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		<title>By: Butch McLarty</title>
		<link>http://leschinskidesign.com/20080812/state-of-londons-independent-media/#comment-2785</link>
		<dc:creator>Butch McLarty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 20:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, I thought the debate-conversation in here was quite civil initially, then John took offence at my critique of a few of his comments, including coming to the defence of Dimitrie&#039;s blog, saying that there&#039;s censorship on numerous local blogs -- including London Fog and this one.

Pot, kettle, black, right? 

For example, John stated (since deleted) that if I was going to critique him sentence by sentence that I should probably move along. In any words he&#039;s doing what he criticized Mr. Dimitrie for.

Then the still-wet-behind-the ears jackals rolled in with the outright personal attacks. Ken er a Greg really started it rolling and it went downhill from there with Derek etc. Greg can&#039;t handle criticism either.

Whatever. Pimple on a drum significance. Screwing with people&#039;s ID is also a bit of joke, but if that&#039;s the best they can do, life&#039;s a bowl of cherries. I&#039;ve had rougher times with stuffed panda bears. At least you got some traffic on your site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, I thought the debate-conversation in here was quite civil initially, then John took offence at my critique of a few of his comments, including coming to the defence of Dimitrie&#8217;s blog, saying that there&#8217;s censorship on numerous local blogs&thinsp;&#8212;&thinsp;including London Fog and this&nbsp;one.</p>
<p>Pot, kettle, black,&nbsp;right? </p>
<p>For example, John stated (since deleted) that if I was going to critique him sentence by sentence that I should probably move along. In any words he&#8217;s doing what he criticized Mr. Dimitrie&nbsp;for.</p>
<p>Then the still-wet-behind-the ears jackals rolled in with the outright personal attacks. Ken er a Greg really started it rolling and it went downhill from there with Derek etc. Greg can&#8217;t handle criticism&nbsp;either.</p>
<p>Whatever. Pimple on a drum significance. Screwing with people&#8217;s ID is also a bit of joke, but if that&#8217;s the best they can do, life&#8217;s a bowl of cherries. I&#8217;ve had rougher times with stuffed panda bears. At least you got some traffic on your&nbsp;site.</p>
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		<title>By: Kata</title>
		<link>http://leschinskidesign.com/20080812/state-of-londons-independent-media/#comment-2783</link>
		<dc:creator>Kata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 19:53:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you&#039;re pretty much spot on with everything. Some of the offenders wouldn&#039;t be so bad if it wasn&#039;t for the horrid designs. 

Then again, we&#039;re both kind of design snobs ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;re pretty much spot on with everything. Some of the offenders wouldn&#8217;t be so bad if it wasn&#8217;t for the horrid&nbsp;designs. </p>
<p>Then again, we&#8217;re both kind of design snobs <img src='http://leschinskidesign.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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